HI and thanx for the fast feedback. That is dissapointing to hear though. I run only custom maps on my server. I never had the problem with UTPURE 6E which I have been running since the server startup. I could never get UTPURE 7C to run at all on the windows based server. Anybody have any GOOD alternatives to UTPure? I sure do like it though. Is protection even worth it anymore? Seems as soon as thier released, their hacked. I mean it is even worth running 6E anymore? Thanks for the help, been a long time waiting for the new Pure, only to find out, at least in my case, the wait has been in vain.